Monday, November 29, 2004

Jackson on CNN Crossfire Talks About Election Fraud

Jesse Jackson interview by Paul Begala and that douche bag Robert Novak:


BEGALA: Good, sir.

JACKSON: Very good.

NOVAK: Reverend Jackson, you know, I don't know if you noticed it, but Senator Kerry said, let's -- this, let's put this behind us. There's no way we can make up enough votes in Ohio to carry the state. And, you know, Jesse you may not have noticed it, but it was -- John Kerry was the candidate. You weren't the candidate. Why can't you go along with John on this?

JACKSON: I fought for the right to vote before John Kerry ever decided to run for the presidency. The principle is bigger than him. The election is not certified 27 days later. The count continues. You know, before the election even started, there were 30,000 people they sought to eliminate, to say they had the wrong wait of paper, and the judge overruled that. Then the provisional ballots, there were 155,000 of them. They're not yet counted, because, in the spring of the year, if you were in the county, you could vote. They shifted it to, you could only vote in the precinct in November. But since they consolidated many precincts, it led to much confusion. There are also 92,000 unprocessed ballots. And so, 27 days later, the process continues. John Kerry conceded much too quickly.

BEGALA: Well, Reverend, but Kerry did lose Ohio reportedly by 136,483 votes. You don't really think that there's 137,000 more Kerry votes there, do you?

JACKSON: Well, there are several things at work here. No. 1, Ellen Connally ran for Supreme Court in the same election. And, in the Cleveland area, Cuyahoga County, Kerry had 120,000 votes more than she had. Down in the area of Butler, Clermont and Warren, she had 190,000 votes more than Kerry had. That suggests that something went awry. And that's why we need a thorough investigation with forensic computer analysts to see, in fact, was there electronic vote tampering? All we know today is that the counting is not over. And why wouldn't it be three weeks later that you do not have a certified election?

NOVAK: Reverend Jackson, in 1960, the first election I covered, they stole the election from Richard Nixon in Illinois. In Texas, there was a difference of less than 12,000 votes. And they took care of those very nicely. But Nixon never protested. They Republicans never protested because, in the interests of the country, they didn't want to have -- put the country through something. You surely don't want some kind of a question of whether who won this election, when it's not 10,000 or 12,000 votes. It's, as Paul says, what, 136,000 votes.

JACKSON: Well, we should be better 44 years later in the counting of an election. I mean, if we can protest an unfair election, a questionable one in Ukraine, why can't we have a good one here in our own country? The point is, there are court suits asking, A, that all ballots be counted. So far, Mr. Novak, all ballots have not been counted; 92,000 unprocessed ballots have not been counted; 155,000 provisional votes have not all yet been counted. And so to expect all votes to count is reasonable. Whether Kerry win or loses, let the winner win and the loser lose, but count all the votes. That's a reasonable democratic expectation.

BEGALA: Reverend Jesse Jackson, thanks very much.


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